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i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen
i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why...
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the nra would try to do that. there monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop it. a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. >> that's the best, i guess, of nr a's ceo. after the press conference friday, he had another strike out on "meet the press." a house democrat is backing a package that pushes background checks on gun buyers and those on the terrorist watch list. from buying and owning guns. yeah. right now that is actually legal. in addition, the bill would require gun owners to report lost or stolen weapons and make it harder to carry permits. do you notice what's missing from the list? armed guards at the school. with matt miller, we will talk about all of this. matt, republican pollster was on cbs talking about wayne la pierre and i want to listen to the comments and get your take. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a
the nra would try to do that. there monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop it. a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. >> that's the best, i guess, of nr a's ceo. after the press conference friday, he had another strike out on "meet the press." a house democrat is backing a package that pushes background checks on gun buyers and those on the terrorist watch list. from buying and owning guns. yeah. right now that is actually legal. in addition, the...
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laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says is he defecting to, quote, join the people's revolution. and the recovery in the housing market remains on pace. home prices rose 4.3% in october over last year, that is it the biggest percentage increase in more than two years. near record low mortgage rates and fewer foreclosures are helping spur sale which is in turn is boosting prices. and the world's longest high speed rail line is up and running and it's in, where else, china. the 1428 mile line spans more than half the country linking the capital of beijing to the southern chinese bloom city.
laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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and i would say to the nra or anybody that says, hey, this isn't the problem, if it's not the problem, it will make a difference, it should make a difference banning them. let's err on the side of caution, keep the kids safe. thank you. >> let me also echo again my appreciation for commissioner dr. joe marshall because omega boys club has been a great partner. they are part of our effort to organize commutes, to intervene as early as we can, and i totally agree with the chief that these particular guns, if you look at them up front and close, you'll see they really shouldn't be in anybody's homes. they're designed to kill folks. many of them military style. i think to bring home the real story here is dr. andrei campbell of our san francisco general hospital, and also on staff at ucsf. he is at the forefront of world class trauma center that we have. and if you go day to day, and certainly with the 67 homicides that we have with the numbers of bodies that were showing up and people have shown up, many of which he saved, many of which he couldn't save that were victims of bullets and v
and i would say to the nra or anybody that says, hey, this isn't the problem, if it's not the problem, it will make a difference, it should make a difference banning them. let's err on the side of caution, keep the kids safe. thank you. >> let me also echo again my appreciation for commissioner dr. joe marshall because omega boys club has been a great partner. they are part of our effort to organize commutes, to intervene as early as we can, and i totally agree with the chief that these...
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if there is a disconnect between nra members and the nra leadership. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gi of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the ambulance will talk to patient records will talk to doctors about saving lives. it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. the next big thing? we're going to wake the world up. ♪ and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. ♪ cisco. tomorrow starts here. >>> throughout newtown, connecticut, teddy bears, the candles, pictures of christmas trees, they were displayed everywhere in remembrance of the victims who lost their lives in the shooting massacre at sandy hook elementary. the community united during the holiday to support the families of the victims wh
if there is a disconnect between nra members and the nra leadership. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gi of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the...
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massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the new york times, great reporter, my colleague on the hill, thank you so much for being here. back to the cliff and guns on nadler, sherman was here saying there is some talk amongst leadership, but i keep beating this like a drum, doesn't seem to be any urgency on capitol hill. >> i was talking to some senators this morning, when are you going to get back into town? oh, you know, maybe tomorrow night we'll kind of come in. president obama will be coming in tomorrow night. doesn't seem the level of urgency that you would think, given that in five, six days these things are going to hit. and i think it's because they reall
massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the...
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i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don parata in the legislature in the late 1990s, the california assault weapons ban, also the saturday night special bill. we have very tough gun laws. we still have crimes, yes. but there's no question that they've helped to address some of the violence in our country. and i hope that we do act. we need to kt a. there are a lot of things that we could do to toughen our gun laws that are sensible and responsible. and the vast majority of people would agree on. >> mayor antonio villaraigosa, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you, carol. >>> let's shift gears
i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don...
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gregory was asking the nra chief if banning high capacity clips would make a difference in gun control and murders. washington, d.c. police are now investigating, they say it is illegal in washington to be in possession of a clip more than ten rounds. there it is. >>> new controversy over a gun-training program for teachers in two u.s. states, utah and kansas, offering free permit courses as well as mass violence response training. they're the only two states that allow individuals with concealed weapon permits to carry their guns to school. the move comes as several groups push to arm teachers in the wake of the school shooting. critics argue this could lead to more violence. patti ann: holiday travelers bracing for a messy day at the airports and on the roads as a severe winter storm now heads toward the east coast. up to a foot of snow expected in some areas, and yvonne mann joining us from wxin in indianapolis. yvonne? >> reporter: it is downright brutal out here right now. these wind gusts are just beating at us all morning, and the snow is just getting worse. you can see just the
gregory was asking the nra chief if banning high capacity clips would make a difference in gun control and murders. washington, d.c. police are now investigating, they say it is illegal in washington to be in possession of a clip more than ten rounds. there it is. >>> new controversy over a gun-training program for teachers in two u.s. states, utah and kansas, offering free permit courses as well as mass violence response training. they're the only two states that allow individuals...
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i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most persons would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun, not every gun should be available for anyone anywhere anytime. they're looking for a common sense approach that says that those doing it right should be able to own a weapon but it should not be extended to everyone, every time for every type of weapon. >>> thank you very much frank. >> pleasure merry christmas to you. >> we're learning disturbing new details today. michelle miller has the story of a man that murderinjured two firefighters murdered two others and killed his sister as well. >>> it was a trap set by william spangler. >> we're being shot at multiple firemen down multiple firemen shot. >> in a scenario that seems beyond comprehension, they're saying they found a note he left. >> he was going to burn as many houses as possible and do what he really liked to do which was kill people. seven homes burned down. combing through the crime scene, they sa
i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most persons would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun, not every gun should be available for anyone anywhere anytime. they're looking for a common sense approach that says that those doing it right should be able to own a weapon but it should not be extended to everyone, every time for every type of weapon. >>> thank you very much frank. >>...
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it happened while he interviews the ceo of the nra. the investigation started after progun grouped pointed out they were banned. >>> funerals have been scheduled sunday and monday for the two firefighters shot and killed while responding to a fire. meantime a body found yesterday in the home is believed to be that of the sister. police say the man typed a note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and kill people. the police chief read chilling details about his plans. >> quote, i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what they like doing best, killing people. >> police say that the note didn't indicate his motive. they say that he had three guns including a semi automatic similar to the one used in the connecticut school shooting. >> it appears mcaf eric e is spending the week in great britain. he posted an entry on a blog saying he is safe in the country where he grew up. he was born in england. he has been hiding from authorities. he is wanted for questioning in the suspicious de
it happened while he interviews the ceo of the nra. the investigation started after progun grouped pointed out they were banned. >>> funerals have been scheduled sunday and monday for the two firefighters shot and killed while responding to a fire. meantime a body found yesterday in the home is believed to be that of the sister. police say the man typed a note saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and kill people. the police chief read chilling details about his plans....